Palm Pre turns mild-mannered talk show into cage-wrestling

The new Palm Pre is out in the wild Stateside, although it'll be months before you can pick one up in the UK. Leo Laporte is world-renowned for his forward thinking views on technology, and yesterday mentioned on one of his influential online tech shows The Gilmor Gang that he'd been sent a review copy of the Pre.

Joining in the discussion was Michael Arrington from the equally world-renowned TechCrunch, who had quite a bee in his bonnet about Laporte receiving a handset to review, when TechCrunch didn't. What happened next was spectacular car-crash television:

Reading Arrington's thoughts on TechCrunch today, he was attempting to suggest Palm may be supplying handsets only to those reviewers who had commented positively on the Pre in the past. There was a serious point to be made, but it was buried in the on-screen spew of magma. That said, Arrington's tone is more than a little dickish when he confronts Laporte with "What are you gonna do about it?". He's going to cut you off Michael, and tell you to go fuck yourself. That's what.


  • silvershadow
    on disclouse, i was surprised to see hotukdeals ranked as in the top ten affiliate websites in the uk by hitwisei did not know you turn links posted by users in the forum into affiliate links i'm not saying there is anything wrong with it and may be everyone else has twigged and knows thats how the site makes money but how about being more upfront about it? also, how about sharing the revenue with forum members who do 99% the work?
  • well w.
    i listen to the tech podcast sometimes and leo reckons he could talk forever (as he's a radio show presenter). Guess he's been proved wrong. Guess he'd had a bad night sleep. Non of us like to get our integrity challenged and he (like most) got upset by it, but the guest was also right in asking for disclaimers.
  • Julian
    @Silvershadow: I don't see a problem with HUKD using affiliate links. It is a great site and has saved me alot of money in the past! I think it's great that they can operate it and make money out of it. I think it would be very difficult to share revenue with the people who post the deals, and the amount of money involved would probably be very small.
  • silvershadow
    i said no problem with affiliate links but this post was about disclosure and that was my point i never realised this site was affiliate links. as to sharing revenue we log in to post so earnings could be tracked and in the top ten sites means revenue is not very small
  • silvershadow
    @julian have done some digging and having never thought about it i now know this site is associated with quidco through paul nikkel according to several company directories and website entries, quidco does what i'm suggesting pays commission to members so this site run by the same person works in the way it does for the express reason of not passing commission on.
  • Kris
    If I see an offer on here I usually go through quidco so I get the commission not hotukdeals. It is not as if they discourage reminding users about quidco in posts so I do not see a problem. They need to make money some how, even if it is just to cover the coasts of running such a popular site. If people don't have quidco and click through hotukdeals deserves the cash after all they referred the users - which is the whole point of affiliates.
  • Loopy L.
    I never click the links on hotdeals, just go straight to the mentioned website and look for the item. And talking about disclosure - the relationship with Quidco.
  • silvershadow
    From an affiliate blog on Paul Nikkel - Cashback has been done time and time again. The chances of you creating a website bigger than Greasy Palm or Quidco are slim. Infact the chap behind Quidco (Paul Nikkel aka Maple Syrup Media Ltd) is probably laughing himself silly at the success of it. Why is it a success? Money Saving Expert forums seem to have 'elected' it as the cashback site of choice. Plus, Paul has set up Hot UK Deals which naturally ties into Quidco. The amount of times I've seen Quidco mentioned as highest earners for various affiliate competitions makes the mind boggle! I would like to say Hot UK Deals and the Money Saving Expert 'tie' are what makes Quidco as successful as it is. Without these, would it be as successful? Who knows.
  • Steve T.
    Silvershadow - interesting how your grasp of grammar, tone and writing style slips between your first post and your last. That's because you've an axe to grind - you attempted to disguise your natural writing style, but let it slip in the moment. That aside, is it really such a problem that HUKD makes money. Users save money, they save money. Everyone wins. Or is that not enough for you? Are you so greedy as to want it all? And have you *any* idea how much MSE makes out of it's wholesome, whiter-than-white money saving advice? Millions.
  • silvershadow
    @styletaylor Silvershadow - interesting how your grasp of grammar, tone and writing style slips between your first post and your last. That’s because you’ve an axe to grind - you attempted to disguise your natural writing style, but let it slip in the moment. no it was copy and pasted

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