Police patrol eBay

21 May 2009

Following on from yesterday’s article detailing eBay’s new and recursive initiative to prevent its customers from being defrauded by cajoling its customers to work as an anti-fraud hive unit via its VeRO program, it seems the police have also unleashed some clout on fake goods being peddled on the site.

Lancashire police have laid the smack-down on one Jonathan Hartley, who took the good folk of eBay on a £140k ride down Fake Goods Lane. Already jailed for fraud last year (18 months), the courts have now granted police a confiscation order to seize £100k back from him – that’s all he had left. And in accord with the timeless nature of justice in this world, only half the scammed money goes to the victims with the rest quaffed down by the Crown Prosecution, Magistrates’ Court and the fuzz.

Still, it’s better than the kick in the teeth Jonathan Hartley sorely deserves. Sounds like the UK legal system is on our side in the fight against eBay scammers.

Unfortunately it only sounds like that. Most, if not all evidence of our judicial system making dents in the shady world of eBay con-artists comes from high-profile, big-money scams like this. Could it be to do with the case having a £50k turnover for officials? Who knows.

Still, I have heard other tales involving the police and eBay. Like when they ask eBay “hey how do we catch fraudsters anyway?”, allow their riot gear to be debadged and flogged on-site and when they themselves run scamming operations on eBay. So they are involved... just not in the right way, yet.

Fingers crossed for VeRO, then.

[Metro.co.uk]

TOPICS:   Consumer Advice

7 comments

  • Anon
    "Still, I have heard other tales involving the police and eBay. Like when they ask eBay “hey how do we catch fraudsters anyway?” And your point here is?? What better way for the Police to get a feel for eBay's system than ask the people who created and maintain it. Perhaps you should read the stories you link too all the way through rather than post some half baked attempt like this one. "only half the scammed money goes to the victims" I think your forgetting that the majority of the victims will have been refunded via PayPal and their credit card companies. The remainder may well received some of the cash seized via the confiscation order. "Could it be to do with the fact the case had a £50k turnover for officials?" Have you any idea how many hours go into something like this?? hundreds or thousands. Remember, every person who bought these goods in good faith and thought they were buying the real thing becomes a victim of a crime. The amount of work required for just one victim of a crime is enough, never mind the amount were talking here. Whilst stories on sites like these grab your attention and encourage you to read, they are more often written in a way that can deceive the reader. Something I've noticed cropping up more often recently on bitterWallet.
  • Nookster
    Good to see it's back from 404 land :D
  • RD
    810 RSS Subscribers....give it a month and this will be halved.
  • Alan
    Anyone for a great bargain?! Ebay 320370606625. A box of unidentified goods supposedly worth £750 for only £135, lol.
  • Vince W.
    Hey Nookster, yeah had a slight connection glitch. :) Anon - PayPal only introduced “unlimited” protection in late 2008; before that, their protection against fraud wasn’t nearly as definitive. These crimes occurred over a year ago. As for it costing 50 grand to file a confiscation order on a prison inmate; again, unfortunately no way to verify. However, we do know officials didn’t take that amount to cover expenses; half was awarded to them under standard confiscation legislation: http://www.pendletoday.co.uk/nelsonnews/eBay-fraudster-must-pay-back.5277443.jp
  • eBuster
    Alan thats nothing see ebay #220425383004 $982 of 'real gold' for................................... $2 and still eBay won't close the account. Anon you should try being scammed yourself and then see how the police respond so no it's not all a question of reading what others have said but what many have seen with their own eyes. I am looking for help in bringing actions against the Birmingham police and trading standards for turning a blind eye to eBay crime even when cast iron proof has been provided about serious fraud on eBay. DO NOT let the trading standards play you along for months by saying they are wating for eBay to provide information as what they are realy doing is ensuring all the eBay pages have been removed along with any links in google and don't let the police say it's a cival matter when criminal laws have been broken. Anyone needing help to track down eBay fraudsters should see www.eBuster.co.uk that has millions of pages no longer available on eBay or drop by to lend an helping hand. hope you don't mind if i take a copy of the eBay logo at the top of the page vince
  • eBuster
    Alan thats nothing see ebay #220425383004 $982 of 'real gold' for................................... $2 and still eBay won't close the account. Anon you should try being scammed yourself and then see how the police respond so no it's not all a question of reading what others have said but what many have seen with their own eyes. I am looking for help in bringing actions against the Birmingham police and trading standards for turning a blind eye to eBay crime even when cast iron proof has been provided about serious fraud on eBay. DO NOT let the trading standards play you along for months by saying they are wating for eBay to provide information as what they are realy doing is ensuring all the eBay pages have been removed along with any links in google and don't let the police say it's a cival matter when criminal laws have been broken. Anyone needing help to track down eBay fraudsters should see eBuster,co,uk that has millions of pages no longer available on eBay or drop by to lend an helping hand. hope you don't mind if i take a copy of the eBay logo at the top of the page vince

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