Comments on: ‘The Art of Tipping’ that ensures you DON’T get a table http://www.bitterwallet.com/the-art-of-tipping-before-you-eat-or-sit/827 Thank you for your custom Tue, 16 Mar 2010 05:28:09 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.4 hourly 1 By: Future Gringo | Denver and Travel Blog by James Van Dellen » News of Interest 101808 http://www.bitterwallet.com/the-art-of-tipping-before-you-eat-or-sit/827/comment-page-1#comment-23079 Future Gringo | Denver and Travel Blog by James Van Dellen » News of Interest 101808 Sun, 26 Jul 2009 19:50:36 +0000 http://www.bitterwallet.com/?p=827#comment-23079 [...] on tipping. Or how to secure a good table – even if you sort of come across like a jerk. From [...] [...] on tipping. Or how to secure a good table – even if you sort of come across like a jerk. From [...]

]]> By: Carina http://www.bitterwallet.com/the-art-of-tipping-before-you-eat-or-sit/827/comment-page-1#comment-202 Carina Sat, 18 Oct 2008 12:11:28 +0000 http://www.bitterwallet.com/?p=827#comment-202 Interesting subject. I think as a standard in UK, tipping 10% is fine and more up to the discretion of the diner if the service was exceptional. Given the current economic situation and for those who are students, they shouldnt be obligated to tip. And yes you can ask for it to be removed if the service was diabolical. Just watch out for the "service charge already included" in your final bill otherwise you end up double tipping. I'm pretty strict on my tipping and I'm not stingy. Service is really important to me as a diner and if the service was good I do tip very generously. If the service is lousy I will state the fact and I dont shy away from it, after all you are paying marked up prices for wine and food and you expect a pleasant dining experience with the price dont you? I think Brits are perhaps too shy to complain about things? Interesting subject. I think as a standard in UK, tipping 10% is fine and more up to the discretion of the diner if the service was exceptional. Given the current economic situation and for those who are students, they shouldnt be obligated to tip. And yes you can ask for it to be removed if the service was diabolical. Just watch out for the “service charge already included” in your final bill otherwise you end up double tipping. I’m pretty strict on my tipping and I’m not stingy. Service is really important to me as a diner and if the service was good I do tip very generously. If the service is lousy I will state the fact and I dont shy away from it, after all you are paying marked up prices for wine and food and you expect a pleasant dining experience with the price dont you? I think Brits are perhaps too shy to complain about things?

]]> By: Vince http://www.bitterwallet.com/the-art-of-tipping-before-you-eat-or-sit/827/comment-page-1#comment-190 Vince Fri, 17 Oct 2008 20:52:10 +0000 http://www.bitterwallet.com/?p=827#comment-190 Wait a minute, you are supposed to tip when a waiter brings you a bottle of wine?!?! Maybe I'm misunderstanding what they said... Wait a minute, you are supposed to tip when a waiter brings you a bottle of wine?!?! Maybe I’m misunderstanding what they said…

]]> By: Paul Nikkel http://www.bitterwallet.com/the-art-of-tipping-before-you-eat-or-sit/827/comment-page-1#comment-179 Paul Nikkel Fri, 17 Oct 2008 15:57:38 +0000 http://www.bitterwallet.com/?p=827#comment-179 I think we've got to get a tipping poll up next week! The argument never ends... I think we’ve got to get a tipping poll up next week! The argument never ends…

]]> By: jen http://www.bitterwallet.com/the-art-of-tipping-before-you-eat-or-sit/827/comment-page-1#comment-165 jen Fri, 17 Oct 2008 13:10:36 +0000 http://www.bitterwallet.com/?p=827#comment-165 Agreed Ross - it's tipping on overpriced wine that really gets me as well. Agreed Ross – it’s tipping on overpriced wine that really gets me as well.

]]> By: Ross helliwell http://www.bitterwallet.com/the-art-of-tipping-before-you-eat-or-sit/827/comment-page-1#comment-156 Ross helliwell Fri, 17 Oct 2008 09:25:48 +0000 http://www.bitterwallet.com/?p=827#comment-156 Yes, my girlfriend asked for the tip to be removed in an italian in Covent garden. The waiter was chatting when we were waiting to give our order and the bottle of wine we ordered arrived after our main course was delivered. Why do we tip anyway in a restaurant, there are other "service" industries you dont tip. Do you tip an air hostess or a mechanic? Beside, if a waiter brings you a £100 bottle of wine he would get a £10 tip, if he brought you a £10 bottle of wine he would get £1, he has done nothing different to earn the £9 extra tip. Tipping should be a flat rate not based on the value of your meal. Yes, my girlfriend asked for the tip to be removed in an italian in Covent garden.

The waiter was chatting when we were waiting to give our order and the bottle of wine we ordered arrived after our main course was delivered.

Why do we tip anyway in a restaurant, there are other “service” industries you dont tip. Do you tip an air hostess or a mechanic?

Beside, if a waiter brings you a £100 bottle of wine he would get a £10 tip, if he brought you a £10 bottle of wine he would get £1, he has done nothing different to earn the £9 extra tip.

Tipping should be a flat rate not based on the value of your meal.

]]> By: Vince Wong http://www.bitterwallet.com/the-art-of-tipping-before-you-eat-or-sit/827/comment-page-1#comment-146 Vince Wong Fri, 17 Oct 2008 00:37:33 +0000 http://www.bitterwallet.com/?p=827#comment-146 Yeah, I must have picked up American habits of 20% minimum expected. Normally if service is bad, I certainly don't leave a tip, but I also get battle mouth and make a point. I suppose it's not the best thing to do, but as David pointed out, unless you make it a point esp with the mandatory tip, they will prob just assume that you're stingy. Has anyone ever had such bad service, that they've requested to have the 10% REMOVED? I once witnessed it in America, but never over here... Yeah, I must have picked up American habits of 20% minimum expected.

Normally if service is bad, I certainly don’t leave a tip, but I also get battle mouth and make a point. I suppose it’s not the best thing to do, but as David pointed out, unless you make it a point esp with the mandatory tip, they will prob just assume that you’re stingy.

Has anyone ever had such bad service, that they’ve requested to have the 10% REMOVED? I once witnessed it in America, but never over here…

]]> By: David Parry http://www.bitterwallet.com/the-art-of-tipping-before-you-eat-or-sit/827/comment-page-1#comment-145 David Parry Fri, 17 Oct 2008 00:00:46 +0000 http://www.bitterwallet.com/?p=827#comment-145 I've always known 10% to be added automatically. Once I deducted this said 10% because the service was absolutely diabolical. I certainly made my point. In the few places where they haven't added 10%, if the service is really bad, I don't "not tip". I just "tip" a few pennies. I feel this shows my dissatisfaction with the service better than not tipping at all. Afterall, they might just think I'm tight and don't tip! I’ve always known 10% to be added automatically.

Once I deducted this said 10% because the service was absolutely diabolical. I certainly made my point.

In the few places where they haven’t added 10%, if the service is really bad, I don’t “not tip”. I just “tip” a few pennies. I feel this shows my dissatisfaction with the service better than not tipping at all. Afterall, they might just think I’m tight and don’t tip!

]]> By: Paul Nikkel http://www.bitterwallet.com/the-art-of-tipping-before-you-eat-or-sit/827/comment-page-1#comment-144 Paul Nikkel Thu, 16 Oct 2008 21:40:53 +0000 http://www.bitterwallet.com/?p=827#comment-144 Dunno... if a restaurant tries to charge for tap water there's no way I'd pay them a tip for the pleasure?! Dunno… if a restaurant tries to charge for tap water there’s no way I’d pay them a tip for the pleasure?!

]]> By: james http://www.bitterwallet.com/the-art-of-tipping-before-you-eat-or-sit/827/comment-page-1#comment-143 james Thu, 16 Oct 2008 21:33:56 +0000 http://www.bitterwallet.com/?p=827#comment-143 oh way. the first commenter was charged for tap water and used it as a reason to weasel out of his tip. Just state you don't want to pay for the water, and tip for the service accordingly. jeez. oh way. the first commenter was charged for tap water and used it as a reason to weasel out of his tip. Just state you don’t want to pay for the water, and tip for the service accordingly.

jeez.

]]> By: Vince Wong http://www.bitterwallet.com/the-art-of-tipping-before-you-eat-or-sit/827/comment-page-1#comment-140 Vince Wong Thu, 16 Oct 2008 18:22:24 +0000 http://www.bitterwallet.com/?p=827#comment-140 crap. now i think about it, I also don't know what happened, but I gave £10 for a £7.40 meal at Wagamama yesterday. And I think they charged me for the tap water. crap. now i think about it, I also don’t know what happened, but I gave £10 for a £7.40 meal at Wagamama yesterday.

And I think they charged me for the tap water.

]]> By: bigbadbass http://www.bitterwallet.com/the-art-of-tipping-before-you-eat-or-sit/827/comment-page-1#comment-139 bigbadbass Thu, 16 Oct 2008 16:43:16 +0000 http://www.bitterwallet.com/?p=827#comment-139 10/15%/20% seems fairly standard for on-the-bill service charge in blighty, and yes, I have refused to pay. I was charged for tap water and not informed. 10/15%/20% seems fairly standard for on-the-bill service charge in blighty, and yes, I have refused to pay. I was charged for tap water and not informed.

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