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	<title>Comments on: BBC iPlayer to require TV License, for some reason</title>
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		<title>By: emma</title>
		<link>http://www.bitterwallet.com/bbc-iplayer-to-require-tv-license-for-some-reason/11643/comment-page-1#comment-30240</link>
		<dc:creator>emma</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Sep 2009 10:30:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i have a tv license........ big majority of programmes are crappy.......takes the piss having to fork out the tv license plus extra if you want decent channels  in regards to sky......then  it takes the piss again to pay out for tv license...... your net  bill plus the probability of a net license on top of that.    Basically it takes the piss, im not complianing  im just having a bitch about the fact that it  generally does take thte piss.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i have a tv license&#8230;&#8230;.. big majority of programmes are crappy&#8230;&#8230;.takes the piss having to fork out the tv license plus extra if you want decent channels  in regards to sky&#8230;&#8230;then  it takes the piss again to pay out for tv license&#8230;&#8230; your net  bill plus the probability of a net license on top of that.    Basically it takes the piss, im not complianing  im just having a bitch about the fact that it  generally does take thte piss.</p>
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		<title>By: GD Cheers</title>
		<link>http://www.bitterwallet.com/bbc-iplayer-to-require-tv-license-for-some-reason/11643/comment-page-1#comment-27463</link>
		<dc:creator>GD Cheers</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Aug 2009 18:07:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Due to the simplistic rubbish which passes for entertainment and news on TV  I had not switched  it on for four years.
I took the 30 year old TV to the local dump a few months ago. 

When I informed the licensing authority they sent me a form which gave me a rebate of the licensee fee from the date on which I dumped the tv.

The annual fee £142-50 hires a mountain of DVDs from the library.

Access to intelligently written newspapers on the web beats BBC news anyday.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Due to the simplistic rubbish which passes for entertainment and news on TV  I had not switched  it on for four years.<br />
I took the 30 year old TV to the local dump a few months ago. </p>
<p>When I informed the licensing authority they sent me a form which gave me a rebate of the licensee fee from the date on which I dumped the tv.</p>
<p>The annual fee £142-50 hires a mountain of DVDs from the library.</p>
<p>Access to intelligently written newspapers on the web beats BBC news anyday.</p>
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		<title>By: B Landers</title>
		<link>http://www.bitterwallet.com/bbc-iplayer-to-require-tv-license-for-some-reason/11643/comment-page-1#comment-22871</link>
		<dc:creator>B Landers</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Jul 2009 15:30:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I hate CRAPTIA aka tv licencing scum. I will never ever pay a penny for a licence as long as I live.
Thankyou BBC for giving me Iplayer. I can now watch the content  I want to watch when I want to watch it for free. I dont watch live content so Im not breaking any laws. I only watch a few progs from TV channels a few hrs a week - max - I have a life unlike some people who have too much time on hands to watch crap. And dont see why I should a pay for content I dont watch. 
Another reason I will never pay is there their enforcement officers and their pathetic little letters they send me in different colloured ink every few weeks. - Ohh Im soo scared!  
Anyone else getting them just put &quot;return to sender on them&quot;- unopened. If 100,000 people did this they would get the message! LOL</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I hate CRAPTIA aka tv licencing scum. I will never ever pay a penny for a licence as long as I live.<br />
Thankyou BBC for giving me Iplayer. I can now watch the content  I want to watch when I want to watch it for free. I dont watch live content so Im not breaking any laws. I only watch a few progs from TV channels a few hrs a week &#8211; max &#8211; I have a life unlike some people who have too much time on hands to watch crap. And dont see why I should a pay for content I dont watch.<br />
Another reason I will never pay is there their enforcement officers and their pathetic little letters they send me in different colloured ink every few weeks. &#8211; Ohh Im soo scared!<br />
Anyone else getting them just put &#8220;return to sender on them&#8221;- unopened. If 100,000 people did this they would get the message! LOL</p>
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		<title>By: andy</title>
		<link>http://www.bitterwallet.com/bbc-iplayer-to-require-tv-license-for-some-reason/11643/comment-page-1#comment-16959</link>
		<dc:creator>andy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 May 2009 15:40:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>don&#039;t forget

http://www.bbctvlicence.com/

tips to piss off the bbc</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>don&#8217;t forget</p>
<p><a href="http://www.bbctvlicence.com/" rel="nofollow">http://www.bbctvlicence.com/</a></p>
<p>tips to piss off the bbc</p>
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		<title>By: andy</title>
		<link>http://www.bitterwallet.com/bbc-iplayer-to-require-tv-license-for-some-reason/11643/comment-page-1#comment-16957</link>
		<dc:creator>andy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 May 2009 15:39:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>the bbc is just looking for ways to squeeze money from people, they don&#039;t care if you watch their channels or not, their enforcement officers will pressure you again and again until you tell them to piss off!!

if they really wanted to make sure people who watch the iplayer have a license they should ask for the license number before they can open it...simple website building! 

get a life BBC stop using corporate bullshit on us</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>the bbc is just looking for ways to squeeze money from people, they don&#8217;t care if you watch their channels or not, their enforcement officers will pressure you again and again until you tell them to piss off!!</p>
<p>if they really wanted to make sure people who watch the iplayer have a license they should ask for the license number before they can open it&#8230;simple website building! </p>
<p>get a life BBC stop using corporate bullshit on us</p>
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		<title>By: TVLicenceInfo</title>
		<link>http://www.bitterwallet.com/bbc-iplayer-to-require-tv-license-for-some-reason/11643/comment-page-1#comment-16927</link>
		<dc:creator>TVLicenceInfo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 May 2009 12:15:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@amusing-name, &quot;you need a license if you own a TV/VCR/Satellite Decoder...In fact even if you never turn it on you still need a license&quot;.

This is incorrect. The UK television licence is a licence to watch, not to own - you can own as many television sets as you like, and keep them on all day, without requiring a licence.

You need a licence if, and only if, you watch a live television programme. It does not matter where the programme comes from (foreign or domestic), how it is being transmitted (over the air, via the internet), or how it is being watched (on a TV, a computer, or a mobile phone). If the programme is being transmitted as you are watching it, a licence is required.

Conversely, you do not need a licence to own a television or to watch non-live programmes (from the BBC or anyone else). You can own a TV and use it for DVDs and video games without requiring a licence, and you can (currently) watch non-live services such as iPlayer or 4oD without a licence.

If the law is changed to require a licence for any BBC content (live or non-live), it will presumably have to be worded in such a way that it only applies to video (or a radio would require a licence) and in such a way that DVDs/etc are excluded (or watching a box set would require a licence).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@amusing-name, &#8220;you need a license if you own a TV/VCR/Satellite Decoder&#8230;In fact even if you never turn it on you still need a license&#8221;.</p>
<p>This is incorrect. The UK television licence is a licence to watch, not to own &#8211; you can own as many television sets as you like, and keep them on all day, without requiring a licence.</p>
<p>You need a licence if, and only if, you watch a live television programme. It does not matter where the programme comes from (foreign or domestic), how it is being transmitted (over the air, via the internet), or how it is being watched (on a TV, a computer, or a mobile phone). If the programme is being transmitted as you are watching it, a licence is required.</p>
<p>Conversely, you do not need a licence to own a television or to watch non-live programmes (from the BBC or anyone else). You can own a TV and use it for DVDs and video games without requiring a licence, and you can (currently) watch non-live services such as iPlayer or 4oD without a licence.</p>
<p>If the law is changed to require a licence for any BBC content (live or non-live), it will presumably have to be worded in such a way that it only applies to video (or a radio would require a licence) and in such a way that DVDs/etc are excluded (or watching a box set would require a licence).</p>
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		<title>By: zeddy</title>
		<link>http://www.bitterwallet.com/bbc-iplayer-to-require-tv-license-for-some-reason/11643/comment-page-1#comment-16867</link>
		<dc:creator>zeddy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 May 2009 18:13:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s too easy to knock the BBC. Where else would left wing, tree-hugging, &quot;bowls from the other end&quot; people get jobs in the media?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s too easy to knock the BBC. Where else would left wing, tree-hugging, &#8220;bowls from the other end&#8221; people get jobs in the media?</p>
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		<title>By: BBPEE</title>
		<link>http://www.bitterwallet.com/bbc-iplayer-to-require-tv-license-for-some-reason/11643/comment-page-1#comment-16858</link>
		<dc:creator>BBPEE</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 May 2009 13:02:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And I&#039;ve got to agree with Vince - what has this actually got to do with the quality of the bbc?

What has it to do with the license fee?

The whole article was about what a farce the BBC are/can be - What is being called for is absolutely useless when 98% of all households still have a tv/license.


Oh and adverts on the BBC can GTFO.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And I&#8217;ve got to agree with Vince &#8211; what has this actually got to do with the quality of the bbc?</p>
<p>What has it to do with the license fee?</p>
<p>The whole article was about what a farce the BBC are/can be &#8211; What is being called for is absolutely useless when 98% of all households still have a tv/license.</p>
<p>Oh and adverts on the BBC can GTFO.</p>
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		<title>By: BBPEE</title>
		<link>http://www.bitterwallet.com/bbc-iplayer-to-require-tv-license-for-some-reason/11643/comment-page-1#comment-16857</link>
		<dc:creator>BBPEE</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 May 2009 13:00:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Andy, or maybe they just don&#039;t like the absolute shite put out by the BBC (and the commercial channels - they are  just as bad).

Nice to know that you view people who think that the mind-numbing, lowest common denominator shit that is 98% of the bbcs output (the other 2% is shit that tries far too hard to be &quot;highbrow&quot;, but clearly isn&#039;t.) are &quot;tits&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Andy, or maybe they just don&#8217;t like the absolute shite put out by the BBC (and the commercial channels &#8211; they are  just as bad).</p>
<p>Nice to know that you view people who think that the mind-numbing, lowest common denominator shit that is 98% of the bbcs output (the other 2% is shit that tries far too hard to be &#8220;highbrow&#8221;, but clearly isn&#8217;t.) are &#8220;tits&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: amusing-name</title>
		<link>http://www.bitterwallet.com/bbc-iplayer-to-require-tv-license-for-some-reason/11643/comment-page-1#comment-16810</link>
		<dc:creator>amusing-name</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 May 2009 14:39:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As it happens English is not my first language so I only watch foreign language satellite channels. And yet I still have to make an annual donation to the BBC to make programs for other people. If you cannot see that is unfair then you are either a narrow minded biggot - or a narrow minded biggot.

To go back to the origional point. If you use you computer to watch &#039;live&#039; TV, be it ITV, BBC or Sky - then you are required to have a license. Thats the law. Currently, if you use iPlayer - or indeed any other media player to view &#039;pre-recorded&#039; (i.e. non-live) programming then you don;t currently require a license. I imagine this is the loophole Mr Huggers would like to close.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As it happens English is not my first language so I only watch foreign language satellite channels. And yet I still have to make an annual donation to the BBC to make programs for other people. If you cannot see that is unfair then you are either a narrow minded biggot &#8211; or a narrow minded biggot.</p>
<p>To go back to the origional point. If you use you computer to watch &#8216;live&#8217; TV, be it ITV, BBC or Sky &#8211; then you are required to have a license. Thats the law. Currently, if you use iPlayer &#8211; or indeed any other media player to view &#8216;pre-recorded&#8217; (i.e. non-live) programming then you don;t currently require a license. I imagine this is the loophole Mr Huggers would like to close.</p>
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		<title>By: Steve</title>
		<link>http://www.bitterwallet.com/bbc-iplayer-to-require-tv-license-for-some-reason/11643/comment-page-1#comment-16807</link>
		<dc:creator>Steve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 May 2009 14:34:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dear BBC,

I already have a tv license.

Ergo, you will get fuck all else out of me......I watch I-Player, I have a license, I will not pay any further charge.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear BBC,</p>
<p>I already have a tv license.</p>
<p>Ergo, you will get fuck all else out of me&#8230;&#8230;I watch I-Player, I have a license, I will not pay any further charge.</p>
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		<title>By: Vince Wong</title>
		<link>http://www.bitterwallet.com/bbc-iplayer-to-require-tv-license-for-some-reason/11643/comment-page-1#comment-16806</link>
		<dc:creator>Vince Wong</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 May 2009 14:17:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>LOL brilliant.

This isn&#039;t about condemning the license fee. That was never the point.

The BBC are wasting resources and energy on not only commissioning reports they don’t use, but also trying to instigate changes in legislature and protocol which will affect hundreds of thousands of people, when *it’s not actually necessary* according to
said reports. Instead, they (well, some of them) are doing so purely for financial gain.

I don’t doubt that as we move forward we’ll *require* a license on iPlayer. But that day isn’t really going to fall within the decade. 

Don&#039;t they have more pressing things to do? Like detonating the cast of Eastenders?

:)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>LOL brilliant.</p>
<p>This isn&#8217;t about condemning the license fee. That was never the point.</p>
<p>The BBC are wasting resources and energy on not only commissioning reports they don’t use, but also trying to instigate changes in legislature and protocol which will affect hundreds of thousands of people, when *it’s not actually necessary* according to<br />
said reports. Instead, they (well, some of them) are doing so purely for financial gain.</p>
<p>I don’t doubt that as we move forward we’ll *require* a license on iPlayer. But that day isn’t really going to fall within the decade. </p>
<p>Don&#8217;t they have more pressing things to do? Like detonating the cast of Eastenders?</p>
<p> <img src='http://www.bitterwallet.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Andy Dawson</title>
		<link>http://www.bitterwallet.com/bbc-iplayer-to-require-tv-license-for-some-reason/11643/comment-page-1#comment-16805</link>
		<dc:creator>Andy Dawson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 May 2009 14:15:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If you can&#039;t find anything for you in the BBC&#039;s output, you&#039;re either a stubborn refusenik or just a tit.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you can&#8217;t find anything for you in the BBC&#8217;s output, you&#8217;re either a stubborn refusenik or just a tit.</p>
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		<title>By: amusing-name</title>
		<link>http://www.bitterwallet.com/bbc-iplayer-to-require-tv-license-for-some-reason/11643/comment-page-1#comment-16804</link>
		<dc:creator>amusing-name</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 May 2009 14:08:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If the BBC is that magnificent then make it pay-per-view. It will have no problem raising the revenue it requires if enough people actually want it - there should be no need for additional advertising revenue. Its about choice - that then gives me the choice about wether I want to pay for BBC channels or not. 

To go back to the roads analogy. Its a bit like asking me to pay for a road tax even though I only ever go in a bus.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If the BBC is that magnificent then make it pay-per-view. It will have no problem raising the revenue it requires if enough people actually want it &#8211; there should be no need for additional advertising revenue. Its about choice &#8211; that then gives me the choice about wether I want to pay for BBC channels or not. </p>
<p>To go back to the roads analogy. Its a bit like asking me to pay for a road tax even though I only ever go in a bus.</p>
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		<title>By: Gus</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 May 2009 14:06:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Fuck the BBC
Fuck the TV licence 
Fuck the people who agree to pay for tv licence
Fuck everything else!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fuck the BBC<br />
Fuck the TV licence<br />
Fuck the people who agree to pay for tv licence<br />
Fuck everything else!</p>
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