As music goes missing, Spotify and Polydor blame each other

December 3rd, 2010 25 Comments By Paul Brown

spotify logo As music goes missing, Spotify and Polydor blame each otherIf you’re a music fan, you might regard Spotify as the best thing that’s ever gone in your ears. But problems over the availability of certain tracks are a constant niggle. Take That fans who are Spotify Premium members have been angered by the disappearance of the band’s latest album from the service, one of several high profile releases that have been added to the Spotify catalogue, only to mysteriously disappear a few days later.

When users are paying £9.99 per month to access the Premium service, and the music that’s being removed includes the fastest selling album of the decade, that seems mighty unfair.

Avid Bitterwallet reader Jessica has followed Gary, Robbie and the other three from boyband to manband, and from cassette to CD to iTunes to Spotify. So she was quick to store Take That’s Progress album on her iPhone via her Spotify Premium account, but after only a few days of listening, the album disappeared, with Spotify telling her it was no longer available via the service.

“It’s really frustrating, and it seems to be happening a lot,” she says. “Spotify has changed how I buy and listen to music, and I pay for Premium so that I don’t have to download albums from iTunes, but now I’m having to do both.”

Take That’s new album isn’t the only one to have been removed; several others – all released by record label Polydor – have also disappeared days after being added to the service. A check through the Spotify catalogue reveals a clear pattern of Polydor albums being removed shortly after their release.

The Take That album was released on 15 November, and became available to Spotify users during that week; Spotify even tweeted fans a link to the album. But by last weekend it had disappeared from Spotify’s UK catalogue. Other high-profile Polydor albums that were briefly available on Spotify before being pulled include Cheryl Cole’s Messy Little Raindrops and Headlines by The Saturdays.

Another Spotify user, Steve Brammer, has also been riled by the situation. “It appears to be some kind of misguided marketing strategy,” he told us. “If Spotify was only a free service then the argument for removing newly released tracks after a short time would hold more water. When a service is free, you get what you’re given and can’t complain too much.”

“If the record companies think that people who are already paying £10 a month are also going to go out and buy an album either on CD or from iTunes because it has been removed from Spotify, then they are sorely mistaken. All they are doing is pissing people off and making Spotify a less attractive deal.”

Polydor is owned by Universal Music Group, one of the major companies that Spotify promotes as a partner on its website. Yet Spotify’s catalogue seems to be controlled at the whim of the labels, even where distribution agreements exist. Spotify told Bitterwallet:

“From time to time we’re asked by rights holders to withdraw certain albums from the service. It’s never in our interest to remove music as we want to provide our users with the biggest possible catalogue. We sincerely apologise to any Spotify users whose service has been disrupted.”

As for Polydor, they’ve firmly pushed the blame back in Spotify’s direction, claiming to be unaware that some of their biggest releases had been removed from the service. The label told us:

“We delivered these albums to Spotify to be uploaded onto Premium from release date and the fact they are not currently there is something we are working with Spotify to resolve. Thanks for bringing this to our attention.

To be clear, is it absolutely not a deliberate tactic or marketing ploy to make new albums available on Spotify on release and then remove them a few days later. We are big supporters of Spotify but it is a fairly new service and we are still fine tuning the best way to work with them from a technical/operational perspective and in a way which works best for fans and artists.”

Polydor is currently promoting recent releases The Beginning by The Black Eyed Peas and Duffy’s Endlessly, both of which are available on Spotify. But for how long?

As for Spotify, a failure to retain high profile new releases may restrict its subscriber base. “I can only see losers when tracks are removed from Spotify,” says Steve Brammer. “The artist, record label, publisher, distributor and Spotify themselves all lose a moneymaking opportunity.” And the biggest losers seem to be Spotify subscribers, who are paying for content that can disappear without warning.

Comments (25) Jump to most recent comment
  1. Posted by Nobby December 3, 2010 at 4:14 pm

    This just helps push illegal downloads. When you pay it is available, then it is removed. So you go looking elsewhere for another copy …

  2. Posted by nig December 3, 2010 at 5:15 pm

    so what? Take that are shite and “avid take that fans” are retarded

  3. Posted by andy of yarm December 3, 2010 at 5:23 pm

    don’t throw stones in greenhouses mate

  4. Posted by scott December 3, 2010 at 7:08 pm

    @nig
    Well said. absolute fucktards the lot of them When i reach the age were i feel like having a “derek bird” moment
    The members of the the “Take Shite” band are getting both bores unloaded in there piss chewing faces!!

  5. Posted by Slacker December 3, 2010 at 7:29 pm

    All this downloading malarkey makes me laugh. People pay through the nose for crappy compressed audio files*, often ending up paying more that it would cost to buy the better-sounding CD.

    The record companies are laughing all the way to the bank – they sell a substandard product without any manufacturing costs, usually for the same price as a CD with a printed booklet, proving the old adage that there really is one born every minute.

    * although if you’re listening on some iWank or other through those shitty little headphones I don’t suppose audio fidelity is high on your list of priorities

  6. Posted by -] December 4, 2010 at 9:27 am

    Spotify = wank, what do you expect?

    They screw fans, they screw labels (although few of us have sympathy for them) and they screw artists (almost as much as the labels do).

    Fuck em!

  7. Posted by zeddy December 4, 2010 at 12:18 pm

    @Scott: You don’t understand irony, do you?

  8. Posted by Roger The Cabin Boy December 6, 2010 at 11:43 am

    Thank fuck the pirates never let you down.

  9. Posted by Mike December 6, 2010 at 11:57 am

    As a Spotify Premium subscriber and not a Take That fan in any form it has got a bit dodgy of late. I’ve had about 5% of all my tracks become unavailable that were previously. And its far from just shit pop that is getting removed FYI.

  10. Posted by Roger December 6, 2010 at 3:13 pm

    It is obvious that the label companies are removing these new albums just because they think they can sell more during the holiday season! I hope they come to understand that they are hurting both themselves and Spotify!

  11. Posted by Walter December 6, 2010 at 4:15 pm

    I have the same experience. Nearly all my playlists now contain holes where once I could play all the tracks. This is across the breadth of the musical spectrum: classical, Early Music, Jazz, World…
    Very annoying. If this is becoming Spotify’s new policy, I will consider pulling my premium subscription alltogether.

  12. Posted by LAurent December 7, 2010 at 9:44 am

    I’m a premium member,
    and every playlist I enjoyed is now full of holes…

    Walter, +1

  13. Posted by Rachel December 12, 2010 at 2:10 pm

    Frustration Nation-Soooo many songs are now missing!!!!! It’s not on!!!

  14. Posted by Alex December 17, 2010 at 8:52 am

    Hello, please need somebody to pay me with GB card Premium Spofity. I can send money by paypal. Will send little be more for beer. Thank you

  15. Posted by Malcolm X December 18, 2010 at 11:59 am

    I work for polydor

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  17. Posted by Mark H January 13, 2011 at 5:28 pm

    Well the new Take That album was re-added so everyone can rest easy again.

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  19. I am a Spotify premium subscriber that is seriously considering ending my social/cloud music service agreement. I purchased a Spotify account after I wanted to give something back to artists that I would otherwise just ‘download’ the work of. If tracks in my collection keep getting removed, I am unwilling to keep a Spotify account and an iTunes account. I want my music in one place. They need to sort this out or it will fail.

  20. Posted by Goodguy April 14, 2011 at 8:22 pm

    Spotify going subscriber only….?
    ok so I have been paying for spotify since day 1 almost. Wanted to support the great effort in simplifying legal streaming of music. But whats up with the disappearing albums?

    Lunatic Soul – Lunatic Soul (I and II) – gone
    Blackfield albums??
    The Pinapple Thief?
    Katatonia
    and more….

    Gonna just go play my music on http://listen.grooveshark.com/

    (irritated..)

  21. Posted by Patvag May 6, 2011 at 9:43 pm

    I’m really pissed! I’ve spent hours and hours of putting together our playlist and it’s now full of holes. It is impossible to remember all the missing songs and artists as they where added when playing around in “simililar artists” and “friends playlists” THIS IS A BIG LOSS! Why didn’t SPOTIFY leave the playlists intact with the names and songs but without the possibility to play it. In that way I would have the possibility to find it elsewere. Now its gone forewer.

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  24. Posted by Andy August 15, 2011 at 10:57 pm

    Yeah if people are paying £10 a month for spotify and an album is not there, they are just going to illigally download it and not buy it! mainly because they feel cheated!

  25. Posted by Quich November 21, 2011 at 9:30 pm

    @Andy exactly, when i can’t find an album on Spotify i just download it illegally & sync it to my phone. it makes me laugh that they actually think people will pay an extra £7 for an album just because they removed it.

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