Comments on: 30,000 users to get “shock cash demands” for file-sharing http://www.bitterwallet.com/30000-users-to-get-shock-cash-demands-for-file-sharing/21981 Thank you for your custom Tue, 16 Mar 2010 20:54:17 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.4 hourly 1 By: Casey Nothstein http://www.bitterwallet.com/30000-users-to-get-shock-cash-demands-for-file-sharing/21981/comment-page-1#comment-47058 Casey Nothstein Wed, 03 Feb 2010 10:45:39 +0000 http://www.bitterwallet.com/?p=21981#comment-47058 Laptops will change the world when they are accessible to everyone financially. Think of every man and women, having a personal laptop. Laptops will change the world when they are accessible to everyone financially. Think of every man and women, having a personal laptop.

]]> By: Argelia Dennett http://www.bitterwallet.com/30000-users-to-get-shock-cash-demands-for-file-sharing/21981/comment-page-1#comment-46165 Argelia Dennett Fri, 29 Jan 2010 09:48:50 +0000 http://www.bitterwallet.com/?p=21981#comment-46165 I have thought about this myself and you could not have explained it better! I have thought about this myself and you could not have explained it better!

]]> By: Hugo (clear thinker) http://www.bitterwallet.com/30000-users-to-get-shock-cash-demands-for-file-sharing/21981/comment-page-1#comment-45122 Hugo (clear thinker) Sun, 24 Jan 2010 23:50:03 +0000 http://www.bitterwallet.com/?p=21981#comment-45122 Gracias por la informaci Gracias por la informaci

]]> By: Jack http://www.bitterwallet.com/30000-users-to-get-shock-cash-demands-for-file-sharing/21981/comment-page-1#comment-37648 Jack Fri, 27 Nov 2009 00:12:41 +0000 http://www.bitterwallet.com/?p=21981#comment-37648 @ Paul - uTorrent + force encryption. This doesn't do anything I don't think, only helps with throttling in some cases. Without an encrypted SSH tunnel no-one is safe @ Paul – uTorrent + force encryption.

This doesn’t do anything I don’t think, only helps with throttling in some cases. Without an encrypted SSH tunnel no-one is safe

]]> By: Paul http://www.bitterwallet.com/30000-users-to-get-shock-cash-demands-for-file-sharing/21981/comment-page-1#comment-37570 Paul Thu, 26 Nov 2009 10:27:20 +0000 http://www.bitterwallet.com/?p=21981#comment-37570 uTorrent + force encryption. uTorrent + force encryption.

]]> By: The Real Bob http://www.bitterwallet.com/30000-users-to-get-shock-cash-demands-for-file-sharing/21981/comment-page-1#comment-37565 The Real Bob Thu, 26 Nov 2009 09:42:50 +0000 http://www.bitterwallet.com/?p=21981#comment-37565 Phew, it's just sharing, my old fella was quivering with fear then. Phew, it’s just sharing, my old fella was quivering with fear then.

]]> By: mdb http://www.bitterwallet.com/30000-users-to-get-shock-cash-demands-for-file-sharing/21981/comment-page-1#comment-37563 mdb Thu, 26 Nov 2009 09:41:00 +0000 http://www.bitterwallet.com/?p=21981#comment-37563 given the past governments policy as classing broadband internet connection as a necessity for our children surely there must be many situations where suspension of daddies connection for downloading porn will lead to the kiddies being unfairly punished by restriction of their educational resources, maybe its a class thing? given the past governments policy as classing broadband internet connection as a necessity for our children surely there must be many situations where suspension of daddies connection for downloading porn will lead to the kiddies being unfairly punished by restriction of their educational resources, maybe its a class thing?

]]> By: Wayne Kerr http://www.bitterwallet.com/30000-users-to-get-shock-cash-demands-for-file-sharing/21981/comment-page-1#comment-37562 Wayne Kerr Thu, 26 Nov 2009 09:31:57 +0000 http://www.bitterwallet.com/?p=21981#comment-37562 How can you get fined for sharing hardcore pornography, which in itself is ILLEGAL. So it's now legal to charge people for this ??? :( . The isp's should be fined for not screening such content on it's networks :) How can you get fined for sharing hardcore pornography, which in itself is ILLEGAL. So it’s now legal to charge people for this ??? :( . The isp’s should be fined for not screening such content on it’s networks :)

]]> By: N20Y1D http://www.bitterwallet.com/30000-users-to-get-shock-cash-demands-for-file-sharing/21981/comment-page-1#comment-37558 N20Y1D Thu, 26 Nov 2009 09:18:42 +0000 http://www.bitterwallet.com/?p=21981#comment-37558 Wheres the shame in it being made public? Wankers of the world unite! Wheres the shame in it being made public?

Wankers of the world unite!

]]> By: Darren http://www.bitterwallet.com/30000-users-to-get-shock-cash-demands-for-file-sharing/21981/comment-page-1#comment-37557 Darren Thu, 26 Nov 2009 09:06:51 +0000 http://www.bitterwallet.com/?p=21981#comment-37557 Present at the hearing before Chief Master Winegarten (CMW) were Andrew Crossley and Terence Tsang from ACS:Law, representatives from UK ISP BT and three representatives from consumer outfit Which?, who previously made official complaints regarding the conduct of Davenport Lyons. Also present were two individuals previously wrongly accused, who are regulars at the support site BeingThreatened.com. Before the hearing began, CMW noted that he had received letters of complaint from the public about the scheme. As reported to TorrentFreak by those present, during the hearing Andrew Crossley made some interesting comments. After CMW expressed interest in what happens to an accused infringer after the court order is granted and a letter sent, Crossley said that his company was not suggesting that the recipient is definitely guilty in all cases, but the Internet account holder who receives the letter could perhaps help them to identify the person who had actually carried out the infringement. It is worth noting that ISP account holders are not liable for copyright infringement carried out on his/her connection if a) they did not carry it out themselves or b) did not authorize any infringement. If they did neither they can simply write back to ACS:Law explaining that the accusation against them has been made in error. Furthermore, if the account holder does not know who did carry out the infringement, they should state in their reply that is the case. It is then up to ACS:Law to find the real infringer based on their evidence they hold. This is impossible for them without the account holder pointing the finger. Present at the hearing before Chief Master Winegarten (CMW) were Andrew Crossley and Terence Tsang from ACS:Law, representatives from UK ISP BT and three representatives from consumer outfit Which?, who previously made official complaints regarding the conduct of Davenport Lyons. Also present were two individuals previously wrongly accused, who are regulars at the support site BeingThreatened.com.

Before the hearing began, CMW noted that he had received letters of complaint from the public about the scheme. As reported to TorrentFreak by those present, during the hearing Andrew Crossley made some interesting comments.

After CMW expressed interest in what happens to an accused infringer after the court order is granted and a letter sent, Crossley said that his company was not suggesting that the recipient is definitely guilty in all cases, but the Internet account holder who receives the letter could perhaps help them to identify the person who had actually carried out the infringement.

It is worth noting that ISP account holders are not liable for copyright infringement carried out on his/her connection if a) they did not carry it out themselves or b) did not authorize any infringement. If they did neither they can simply write back to ACS:Law explaining that the accusation against them has been made in error.

Furthermore, if the account holder does not know who did carry out the infringement, they should state in their reply that is the case. It is then up to ACS:Law to find the real infringer based on their evidence they hold. This is impossible for them without the account holder pointing the finger.

]]> By: Devlin http://www.bitterwallet.com/30000-users-to-get-shock-cash-demands-for-file-sharing/21981/comment-page-1#comment-37545 Devlin Thu, 26 Nov 2009 01:34:18 +0000 http://www.bitterwallet.com/?p=21981#comment-37545 @Alan Proper porn is available legally in the UK but only from licensed premises. Not as hardcore as some european countries but you do get to see everything and not just facial expressions like you did in the past. @Alan

Proper porn is available legally in the UK but only from licensed premises. Not as hardcore as some european countries but you do get to see everything and not just facial expressions like you did in the past.

]]> By: bob http://www.bitterwallet.com/30000-users-to-get-shock-cash-demands-for-file-sharing/21981/comment-page-1#comment-37544 bob Thu, 26 Nov 2009 00:38:49 +0000 http://www.bitterwallet.com/?p=21981#comment-37544 Oh and Brian I always knew you were a wanker :-) Oh and Brian I always knew you were a wanker :-)

]]> By: bob http://www.bitterwallet.com/30000-users-to-get-shock-cash-demands-for-file-sharing/21981/comment-page-1#comment-37543 bob Thu, 26 Nov 2009 00:37:19 +0000 http://www.bitterwallet.com/?p=21981#comment-37543 Just tell the leaching bastards to feck off if they come a calling. will they end up taking anybody to court? highly unlikely. its just some chancer who has won a contract and is going to try his luck. I look forward to receiving my letter requesting payment and should the muppet turn up on my doorstep ill receive great pleasure stuffing his demand up his arse Just tell the leaching bastards to feck off if they come a calling.
will they end up taking anybody to court? highly unlikely.
its just some chancer who has won a contract and is going to try his luck.
I look forward to receiving my letter requesting payment and should the
muppet turn up on my doorstep ill receive great pleasure stuffing his
demand up his arse

]]> By: Alan http://www.bitterwallet.com/30000-users-to-get-shock-cash-demands-for-file-sharing/21981/comment-page-1#comment-37542 Alan Thu, 26 Nov 2009 00:09:55 +0000 http://www.bitterwallet.com/?p=21981#comment-37542 These people deserve to be scam-baited :D These people deserve to be scam-baited :D

]]> By: Rich http://www.bitterwallet.com/30000-users-to-get-shock-cash-demands-for-file-sharing/21981/comment-page-1#comment-37541 Rich Wed, 25 Nov 2009 23:55:38 +0000 http://www.bitterwallet.com/?p=21981#comment-37541 For anyone who does get a letter, follow the thread here for help: http://www.consumeractiongroup.co.uk/forum/debt-collection-industry/198192-acs-law-80.html For anyone who does get a letter, follow the thread here for help:

http://www.consumeractiongroup.co.uk/forum/debt-collection-industry/198192-acs-law-80.html

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